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02 Jul 2016 22:50 - 19 Jun 2017 20:42 #1 by hPerks
Place your bets for the summer multiplayer tournament here! If you don't need to know all the details of how the payouts and stuff work, and just want to get into making bets, scroll down to the second post for an example to follow.

Alright, so here's the basic idea. For each match (between two players), there's a pool of (Jeef?) money that will be split amongst everyone who correctly predicts the winner of the match. Each pool starts out at $500, and when you bet on the game, that money goes into the pool.

The money in the pool will be given out proportionately to the winners based on how much they bet. So if I bet $100 and you bet $200, you'll get twice as much returns as me if we both win.

The minimum individual bet for each match is $100, and the maximum is $500. You're allowed to bet on as many or as few matches as you want, but because the pool starts out with money in it, you'll (on average) end up ahead for every match you bet on. So the best strategy is to bet on all the matches.

You have an unlimited amount of money. The winner is the person who makes the most net gain - total money won, minus total money bet.

Also, you're not allowed to bet on your own matches.

Example:

  • Suppose the match is Matan vs. Jeef. The pool starts out at $500.

  • Person A bets $100 on Matan.
  • Person B bets $200 on Matan.
  • Person C bets $400 on Jeef.
  • The pool is now $500 + $100 + $200 + $400 = $1200.

  • If Matan wins, Person A and Person B will split the $1200, such that Person B gets twice as much as Person A (since Person B bet twice as much money). So Person A will get $400, and Person B will get $800.
  • If Jeef wins, Person C gets the $1200 all to themselves.

  • That's it!


    Playoffs

    Betting for each group closes when the first match in that group has started.
    This means that the betting for finalists/winners will end very early, so get those in first if you need to!

    Also, you're allowed to bet on your own matches here!


    Playoffs: Quarterfinals

    One person from each group will make the quarterfinals. Who will it be?

    Group 1Group 2Group 3Group 4
    1. Frostfire 1:82. HiGuy 1:83. Kalle 1:84. hPerks 1:7
    16. Tue 1:015. Nature Freak 1:014. Weather 1:013. Threefolder 1:0
    Pool: $4500.00Pool: $4400.00Pool: $4500.00Pool: $3999.00

    Group 5Group 6Group 7Group 8
    5. Eguy 1:66. MBOUltimate 1:57. Jackrb 5:68. Robert 4:1
    12. Freeziez 1:011. Lee 32:110. Xedron 7:39. Regislian 3:5
    Pool: $3700.00Pool: $3700.00Pool: $3150.00Pool: $2650.00


    Playoffs: Semifinalists

    One person from each group will make the semifinals. Who will it be?

    Group 1Group 2Group 3Group 4
    1. Frostfire 1:82. HiGuy 3:53. Kalle 3:54. hPerks 1:4
    8. Robert 1:07. Jackrb 15:16. MBOUltimate 4:15. Eguy 32:1
    9. Regislian 1:010. Xedron 5:111. Lee 1:012. Freeziez 1:0
    16. Tue 1:015. Nature Freak 1:014. Weather 1:013. Threefolder 1:0
    Pool: $4375.00Pool: $3175.00Pool: $2750.00Pool: $3200.00


    Playoffs: Finalists

    One person from each group will reach the finals. Who will it be?
    You may bet on as many people as you want! Maximum bet $1000!

    Group 1Group 2
    1. Frostfire 2:32. HiGuy 3:1
    4. hPerks 3:13. Kalle 7:3
    5. Eguy 100:16. MBOUltimate 2:1
    8. Robert 1:07. Jackrb 100:1
    9. Regislian 100:110. Xedron 1:0
    12. Freeziez 1:011. Lee 1:0
    13. Threefolder 1:014. Weather 1:0
    16. Tue 1:015. Nature Freak 1:0
    Pool: $8950.00Pool: $8750.00


    Tournament WInner

    Who will win the tournament?
    You may bet on as many people as you want! Maximum bet $1000!

    1. Frostfire 3:7
    2. HiGuy 100:1
    3. Kalle 11:1
    4. hPerks 11:1
    5. Eguy 1:0
    6. MBOUltimate 32:1
    7. Jackrb 1:0
    8. Robert 1:0
    9. Regislian 1:0
    10. Xedron 1:0
    11. Lee 1:0
    12. Freeziez 1:0
    13. Threefolder 1:0
    14. Weather 1:0
    15. Nature Freak 1:0
    16. Tue 1:0
    Pool: $10100.00


    Finished rounds:

    Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ]


    Standings

    PlayerNet $Predictions CorrectCorrect %
    hPerks$7799.7545/6273%
    Frostfire$6291.1042/6169%
    HiGuy$6095.6235/5663%
    Jackrb$3873.6743/6170%
    Regislian$3069.4240/5474%
    Toothy$2986.6520/2871%
    El_Robert$1056.7737/5963%
    Rozi$602.8015/1883%
    Matan$397.9718/2572%
    Kalle$380.8341/5476%
    Threefolder$336.7828/4168%
    Lichable-$82.196/875%
    Eguy-$1310.7934/5068%

    Have fun!

    Note: Most real betting games will determine an initial odds before anyone bets on them, but I obviously didn't want to do that. So I've kinda changed some of the rules to adapt to the new, "objective" odds system. I have no idea how well this is gonna work out, but here's hoping. ;)

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    02 Jul 2016 22:50 #2 by hPerks
    All righty, here are my bets for Swiss Round 1. Again, each individual bet must be in the range $100-$500, and you can't bet on your own matches. Betting for each match closes when the first game of that match has started.

    Frosty beats Freeziez - $500
    Lichable beats Tue - $200
    Threefolder beats Toothy - $200
    Jackrb beats Nature Freak - $300
    MBOUltimate beats Xedron - $400
    El_Robert beats Eguy - $300
    MBK beats HiGuy - $100
    Kalle beats Lee - $500
    Regislian beats Weather - $500

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    02 Jul 2016 23:08 - 02 Jul 2016 23:10 #3 by Regislian
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    Let's see:
    Frosty beats Freeziez - $500
    Tue beats Lichable - $200
    Threefolder beats Toothy - $300
    Jackrb beats Nature Freak - $300
    MBOUltimate beats Xedron - $400
    El_Robert beats Eguy - $200
    HiGuy beats MBK - $200
    Kalle beats Lee - $300
    hPerks beats Kwill - $500
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    02 Jul 2016 23:11 - 02 Jul 2016 23:18 #4 by Eguy
    Couple questions:
    These bet situations are theoretical, and the winner who has the most "money" doesn't actually get real money. Right?
    Also, can we try and guess the precise number of games a player will take to win (e. g. 3-2, 3-1, 3-0) and get additional money?

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    02 Jul 2016 23:14 - 02 Jul 2016 23:42 #5 by Kalle29
    Replied by Kalle29 on topic Place your bets - 2016 Summer 1v1 Tournament
    go hard or go home

    Frosty beats Freeziez - $500
    Lichable beats Tue - $500
    Threefolder beats Toothy - $500
    Jackrb beats Nature Freak - $500
    Xedron beats MBOUltimate - $500
    El_Robert beats Eguy - $500
    MBK beats HiGuy - $500
    Regislian beats Weather - $500
    hPerks beats Kwill - $500

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    02 Jul 2016 23:15 #6 by hPerks

    Eguy wrote:
    Couple questions:
    These bet situations are theoretical, and the winner who has the most "money" doesn't actually get real money. Right?

    This is guaranteed, 100% non-counterfeit mint-condition Jeef money. ;)

    Also, can we try and guess the precise number of games a player will take to win (e. g. 3-2, 3-1, 3-0) and get additional money?

    I think it's complicated enough already for me to keep track of :P

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    02 Jul 2016 23:18 #7 by Eguy
    Cool. Is it a requirement to guess every match (aside from our own matches)?

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    02 Jul 2016 23:22 #8 by hPerks

    Eguy wrote:
    Cool. Is it a requirement to guess every match (aside from our own matches)?


    Nope - but I think it's good strategy, even if you just flip a coin, since the pool starts out with $500.

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    02 Jul 2016 23:28 - 02 Jul 2016 23:32 #9 by Eguy
    Kay. Here we go. Not sure I fully get the rules, but I'm sure i'll figure it out as we go along:

    Round 1

    Frostfire beats Freeziez - $500
    Tue beats Lichable - $200
    Toothy beats Threefolder - $100
    J@ckrb beats Nature Freak - $300
    hPerks beats Kwill - $500
    MBOUltimate beats Xedron - $400
    MBK beats HiGuy - $300
    Kalle beats Lee Zi Xian- $500
    Regislian beats Weather - $500

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    02 Jul 2016 23:34 - 02 Jul 2016 23:35 #10 by Frostfire
    Replied by Frostfire on topic Place your bets - 2016 Summer 1v1 Tournament
    aight, looks fun -

    Tue beats Lichie - $300
    Toothy beats Threefolder - $200
    Jack beats Nature Freak - $500
    hPerks beats Kwill - $500
    MBOUltimate beats Xedron - $500
    El Robert beats Eguy - $100
    HiGuy beats MBK - $400
    Lee beats Kalle - $100
    Regislian beats Weather - $500

    See if i can play the system and get some big payouts on upsets.
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    03 Jul 2016 00:07 - 03 Jul 2016 00:09 #11 by Threefolder
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    Frostfire wins -- $499.99
    Lichable wins -- $102.56
    Jackrb wins -- $114.32
    hPerks wins -- 'bout $350
    MBOUltimate wins -- $222.22
    El_Robert wins -- $174.50
    MBKid wins -- $300.01
    Kalle wins -- $420.69
    Regislian wins -- $499.95

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    03 Jul 2016 00:30 #12 by HiGuy
    Trying to be conservative

    Frostfire wins - $500
    Lichable wins - $100
    Toothy wins - $100
    Jackrb wins - $300
    hPerks wins - $200
    MBOUltimate wins - $100
    Eguy wins - $200
    Kalle wins - $300
    Regislian wins - $400

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    03 Jul 2016 01:06 #13 by Kalle29
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    Kalle vs Lee is over btw

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    03 Jul 2016 01:20 #14 by Toothy
    $300 Frostfire beats Freeziez
    $??? Tue vs. Lichable (haven't seen anything from them to judge...)
    $200 Jackrb beats NatureFreak
    $300 hPerks beats Kwill
    $500 Xedron beats MBOUltimate
    $400 El_Robert beats Eguy
    $200 HiGuy beats MBKid
    $!!! Lee vs. Kalle (too late to bet; matchup ended today)
    $200 Regislian beats Weather

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    03 Jul 2016 01:33 #15 by hPerks
    Phew! Everything is updated. Dangit 3f, pick normal numbers next time :pinch:

    Here are the net gains/losses from Kalle beating Lee:

    hPerks & Eguy: +$148.46
    Threefolder: +$124.91
    HiGuy & Regislian: +$89.08
    Frostfire: -$100

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    03 Jul 2016 01:43 #16 by Weather
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    Free money up for grabs! Just bet that Regi beats me, and boom! Free money!

    Oh and also, where's all the nines at? Only Threefolder seems to know that marketing scheme that would fool a five year old.

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    03 Jul 2016 08:20 #17 by J@ckRB
    ok time to do this betting lark

    Frosty wins - $500
    Lichable wins - $150
    Threefolder wins - $100
    hPerky wins - $500
    MBOUltimate wins - $350
    El_Robert wins - $300
    MBK wins - $350
    Kalle wins - $0 this already happened rip
    Regislian wins - $500

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    03 Jul 2016 10:35 #18 by FUBAR_WHERe
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    Frosty wins-$500
    Tue wins-$300
    Threefolder wins-$300
    J@ckrb wins-$500
    hPerks wins-$500
    MBOUltimate wins-$500
    MBKid wins-$200
    Kalle won... I was too late...
    Regislian wins-$500

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    03 Jul 2016 16:49 #19 by Lichable
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    Frosty wins - $500
    Threefolder wins - $500
    Jackrb wins - $300
    Hperks wins - $400
    MBOUltimate wins - $200
    Robert wins - $400
    MBkid wins - $200
    Regislian wins - $500

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    03 Jul 2016 17:47 #20 by hPerks
    All righty, everyone's updated! Just wrote a program that handles a lot of this stuff for me, so updates will be a lot quicker and easier now. Toothy vs. Threefolder will be happening today - should be exciting! :)

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    03 Jul 2016 17:59 - 03 Jul 2016 17:59 #21 by Toothy
    Frosty vs. Freeziez has happened today.
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    03 Jul 2016 18:00 - 03 Jul 2016 18:59 #22 by hPerks
    Gotcha. I assume Frosty won ;)

    Net gains:
    Toothy: +$31.25
    Everyone else (besides Frosty): +$52.08

    Edit: MBOUltimate beats Xedron - payouts:

    Frostfire & El_Robert: +$244.12
    hPerks, Regislian & Eguy: +$195.29
    Jackrb: +$170.88
    Threefolder: +$108.49
    Lichable: +$97.64
    HiGuy: +$48.82

    Kalle & Toothy: -$500

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    03 Jul 2016 19:11 - 03 Jul 2016 19:12 #23 by IsraeliRD
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    Placing $0.01 on all, but these are the ones I called yesterday on staff chat before the tournament started (after match drawings though):

    Matan: rip: freezies, higuy, weather
    Matan: most interesting matchups: eguy vs el robert, kalle vs lzk
    Matan: hperks likely to beat kwill, and jackrb over naturefreak
    Matan: mboultimate > xedron probably
    Matan: tue > lichable
    Matan: threefolder vs toothy
    Matan: can't call either i dont know toothy :p in which case threefolder if he plays well and doesn't screw up
    Matan: kalle vs lzx ill call kalle if he chooses the right maps and doesn't ****lags
    Matan: eguy vs el robert is very hard to select, but ill go robert by a game

    So far 3 for 3

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    03 Jul 2016 20:11 #24 by hPerks
    $100 is the minimum bet, so I'll put you down for that. Also I won't retroactively put you in for the finished matches, because that would change the amount of money that everyone else gets. I'll give you a 3/3 for correct predictions though. :)

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    03 Jul 2016 20:37 #25 by Xedron

    IsraeliRD wrote:
    Placing $0.01 on all, but these are the ones I called yesterday on staff chat before the tournament started (after match drawings though):

    Matan: rip: freezies, higuy, weather
    Matan: most interesting matchups: eguy vs el robert, kalle vs lzk
    Matan: hperks likely to beat kwill, and jackrb over naturefreak
    Matan: mboultimate > xedron probably
    Matan: tue > lichable
    Matan: threefolder vs toothy
    Matan: can't call either i dont know toothy :p in which case threefolder if he plays well and doesn't screw up
    Matan: kalle vs lzx ill call kalle if he chooses the right maps and doesn't ****lags
    Matan: eguy vs el robert is very hard to select, but ill go robert by a game

    So far 3 for 3


    The minimum is 100$, although I must say that's a somewhat strategic move. At least you won't lose money Kalle did. :whistle:

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    04 Jul 2016 04:39 #26 by Toothy
    I lost to Threefolder today....

    Waking up very late to the point doing this is the first thing you do combined with bad map choices sealed it for me... oh well.
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    04 Jul 2016 06:27 #27 by hPerks
    Net payouts for Threefolder beating Toothy:

    Kalle & Lichable: +$225
    Regislian & Robert: +$135
    hPerks: +$90
    Jackrb & Matan: +$45

    Eguy & HiGuy: -$100
    Frostfire: -$200

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    04 Jul 2016 19:43 #28 by hPerks
    More updates!

    Eguy beats El_Robert:

    HiGuy: +$2974.50 (!)

    Frostfire & Matan: -$100
    Regislian: -$200
    hPerks & Jackrb: -$300
    Toothy & Lichable: -$400
    Kalle: -$500

    hPerks beats Kwill:

    Regislian, Kalle, Eguy, Frostfire, Jackrb & Robert: +$57.47
    Threefolder: +$40.22
    Toothy: +$34.48
    HiGuy: +$22.98
    Matan: +$11.49

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    05 Jul 2016 19:13 #29 by Toothy
    HiGuy just defeated Marble Blastkid today, at 3-2.

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    05 Jul 2016 19:36 - 05 Jul 2016 23:49 #30 by hPerks
    Grats to higy for beating the 3:1 odds! Some more big payouts from that one:

    Frostfire: +$1275
    Regislian & Toothy: +$637.50

    hPerks & Matan: -$100
    Robert & Lichable: -$200
    Eguy: -$300
    Threefolder: -$300.01
    Jackrb: -$350
    Kalle: -$500

    Edit: Regi beats Weather - payouts:

    hPerks, Kalle, Eguy, Frostfire, Jackrb, Robert & Lichable: +$53.19
    Threefolder: +$53.18
    HiGuy: +$42.55
    Toothy: +$21.27
    Matan: +$10.63

    Jackrb beats Nature Freak:

    Kalle, Frostfire & Robert: +$73.22
    hPerks, Regislian, Eguy, HiGuy & Lichable: +$43.93
    Toothy: +$29.28
    Threefolder: +$16.74
    Matan: +$14.64

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