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08 May 2016 20:34 - 08 May 2016 20:35 #1 by RDs.The-dts-guy
A fun level for everyone to enjoy! was created by RDs.The-dts-guy
This is a fun level I made to showcase everything good about the Marble Blast.
It's based around castle and has lots of things to enjoy. To make this more fun I am proposing a contest.
Person who posts best time on video in 24 Hours from me posting this level will receive a bit personalized prize.

www.mediafire.com/download/ec4fil7jakxbe04/This_is_Fun.rar

Disclaimer: This level is satire, it's should not be taken literally by anyone and I am not pointing fingers to any user.
For explanation and spoiler check below.

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Last edit: 08 May 2016 20:35 by RDs.The-dts-guy.
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08 May 2016 20:34 - 08 May 2016 21:28 #2 by RDs.The-dts-guy
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I was a bit harsh there, but im just tired of seeing good levels loosing their charm because of such simple things. Like it makes me sad more than mad when I see those things in levels. It's time for change maybe.

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Last edit: 08 May 2016 21:28 by RDs.The-dts-guy.
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08 May 2016 21:14 #3 by Three
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7:52.608!!! I win!!!

Okay, in all seriousness, this video should be required viewing for level builders. One thing RD forgot in his video is that sometimes people put tightropes in their levels to pad out the play time. DON'T DO THAT. A short, fun level is a lot better than a long, annoying level. In fact, most of PQ's levels last between only 45 seconds and 2 minutes at an average pace, but they're very fun to play and play again.

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09 May 2016 15:39 #4 by Ralph
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I finished the level with 56:42.896, and now I realize how tightropes are annoying.
But, following your logic, you also mean Catwalks shouldn't exist?

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09 May 2016 18:44 - 09 May 2016 18:49 #5 by RDs.The-dts-guy
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Ralph wrote:
I finished the level with 56:42.896, and now I realize how tightropes are annoying.
But, following your logic, you also mean Catwalks shouldn't exist?

Depends, I would say mostly no. it is, however, possible to make them fun if you spend enough time and testing (and don't over complicate them) , but for most part people fail to make catawalks any way enjoyable or ,as Threefolder said above, people shove them in in order to get more gameplay or increase playtime of level thus making fun parts of level less enjoyable because those catwalks aren't very well thought out.
Basically unless you know what you are doing you should not put them in. It's for your own and everyone's good.

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09 May 2016 18:48 #6 by Robert
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Please don't tell me I'm the only one that got a video :)

I agree... Tightropes are bad... Especially when you combine them with every single thing that makes it harder...

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09 May 2016 18:57 - 09 May 2016 18:57 #7 by RDs.The-dts-guy
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Damn, i tried so hard to put OOB triggers on GM part to avoid anyone exploiting that path and you still managed to get it in nifty way. Have to applaud you. Really smart thinking.
If i don't get better run in 2hrs Ill contact you on skype or something.

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09 May 2016 20:25 #8 by hPerks
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I agree completely with the sentiment, although I can't help but think you could have made the point with a slightly shorter, less intricate level. ;)
For what it's worth, I've made almost 20 levels now, and none of them have any tightropes. (Closest thing would be that one time travel on MPMC, but you don't actually have to walk across the trim to get it.) And if I can do it, anyone can.

As for the competition, I'll take the prize with 4:43.563s, if that's all right. Here's the video, recorded this morning. Also, no shortcuts.



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10 May 2016 06:20 - 10 May 2016 06:21 #9 by RDs.The-dts-guy
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That is really good run, I'm impressed you didn't did GM skip and did level so well. :D

hPerks wrote:
I agree completely with the sentiment, although I can't help but think you could have made the point with a slightly shorter, less intricate level. ;)

Actually I wanted to make it even longer and harder to ironize even more ways people have tried to make tightropes as fun gameplay element. =x However I think I'm first person to make a such a long nonsense next to Catwalks level MBP expert so that's achievement. :P

hPerks wrote:
For what it's worth, I've made almost 20 levels now, and none of them have any tightropes. (Closest thing would be that one time travel on MPMC, but you don't actually have to walk across the trim to get it.)

Again not calling anyone out, but there's been quite a few levels recently that reminded me of this issue that made me do this so it's more targeted to those level builders. If you don't have a habit to put these in every time you run out of ideas. Cheers!

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And if I can do it, anyone can.

Talking about challenges in general ive recognized that some people go the same way when they make levels and If they are very skilled players they make challenge super complicated. Creator himself can beat it easily, but for beginerish players challenge leaves no value since it's to hard to beat for them (I mean theoretically they can learn it eventually but noone has time for that).
Not trying to say that making hard challenges is bad, the problem starts when you make level with target of being fun and dynamic and easy and then drop a super hard challenge in middle of that level. It's like you make a maths book for 2nd graders and drop integrals in middle. Of course eventually those second graders may figure out how to use them but by then they will be bored as heck.

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We all have sinned with this and of course I have made my share of tightropes too. Enjoy


Also congratulations to Hperks for winning contest. Ill contact you on how to get prize.

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AWESOME time HINT : When making PQ level place your custom interiors and textures in platinum/data/interiors_pq/custom
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12 May 2016 10:50 #10 by Ralph
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Ahhh, I was never able to finish this evil thin loop thing. I busted my OOB counter because of that level! :angry:

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12 May 2016 12:23 - 12 May 2016 12:24 #11 by Lee
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Ooooh sick! I found about 4 tweaks in your tightrope level, so I can skip a lot of the level! I'll post my time here if I ever finished it perfectly. (I know the deadline has passed, but who cares :p)
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