MBG New World Records Topic

Jan 25, 2011, 7:44pm, admin wrote:that's all? Traplaunches people. Those are the grand TASes I want to see.

Yeah a lot of times I visualize theoretical best paths. If you incorporated every possible edge hit into every level, so many times could be destroyed.

(For example, I feel like theoretically you could edge hit on the last jump on Fork in the Road to shave off a few milliseconds. It would have to be PERFECT, and such a slight hit that you don't go too far laterally. But visually it looks like when I fail and hit the edge it gives me a little boost.)

Ok traplaunches level TAS :

Great Divide : 15.6x
To the Moon : 2.7x
Natural Selection : 4.8x (I bet you wonder how)
Tower Maze : 5.3x
Survival ot Fittest : 4.4x
Great Divide Revisited : 8.0x
Money Tree : 36.xx
Platform Party : 6.9x

Jan 25, 2011, 10:45pm, xelna wrote:Natural Selection : 4.8x (I bet you wonder how)Edge traplaunch that shoots you straight to the finish without curve or traplaunch + edge hit on a beam that rebounds you to the finish?

I'm more wondering about the path for SotF 4.4x…

Sorry if I'm asking in the middle of all this but, what exactly is a TAS? Seems like you guys are coming up with some near-impossible times like SotF 4.4x, wondering what the pathway may be.

marbleblast.com/index.cgi?board=havefun&...display&thread=11437

If you read the past few posts, those times posted are ESTIMATED times IF we could TAS MBG, but we CAN'T at the moment...

Powermath: incorrect. There's a TT on the top of the beams. Possible to get through traplaunch. SotF is pretty simple, but absolutely insane for a traplaunch. I don't think it's possible, but in the world of TASes it could possibly be done.

TAS: Tool Assisted Speedrun. If you've seen my recent videos, they're all TASes. Basically we use slowdowns, frame advance and savestates. Basically, we can go 30 frames before the traplaunch and try many different methods in hours while going back to previous savestates if we fail. This way, instead of doing the whole thing from Ready-set-go to the traplaunch, we can focus on the traplaunch alone. Additionally, it gives us the PERFECT start, since it's frame-perfect always. So instead of days or weeks of practicing the same traplaunch, we can do it in mere hours.

I know, frame by frame sounds easy, but remember we run at ~60-64fps, so if we look at SotF, you're playing the last 500ms (half a second) over and over again while using an emulator just to get that perfect traplaunch.
Likewise, levels like Siege you can perfect (the WR can go a lot faster, Pascal won't do my method though, but in a TAS you can easily do it). Want to see sub-22 Pathways? in a TAS, you probably can too!

Jan 26, 2011, 7:03pm, admin wrote:There's a TT on the top of the beams. Possible to get through traplaunch.

Incorrect path

So direct traplaunch? getting a TT would be faster imo since it's just to get up fast.

So what's the path then, Xelna?

Super strong traplaunch to hit the edge of the beam at the top, rebound to finish.

Double post for awesomeness.

To the Moon (3.40s) [.rec]

Watched over 7 times now... must watch more...

Xelna says:
MATAN
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MATAN
* Xelna just sent you a nudge.
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COME ON
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THIS IS THE MARBLE BLAST VIDEO OF THE YEAR
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2011
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NO JOKE
COME HERE
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U NEED TO SEE THIS
NO1 WILL BEAT ME ON TO THE MOON FOREVER NOW
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HURRY IM EXCITED TO SHOW U
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I'M SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW
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COME ON STOP WATCHING TV
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what
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ok
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listen
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after you watch this video
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Your face will explode and you'll shit your pants
Israeli Red Dragon says:
Better than Metro 2033 speedrun Im watching atm?
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yes
You have successfully received C:\Documents and Settings\Matan\Desktop\tothemoon.rec from Xelna.
Israeli Red Dragon says:
works for me
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ill guess this is the WR on To the Moon now
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gonna check
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WHAT
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*face explodes and shits his pants*
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WHAT WHAT WHAT
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this is AWESOME
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TAHT WAS TOTAL FLUKE
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HONESTLY
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hahahaha
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WHAT THE SHIT
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WATCHING THIRD TIME NOW
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HOLY SHIT

Please post the video!

Amazing job, Xelna! I can't wait to see it for myself.

Jan 31, 2011, 12:54pm, andrewsears wrote:Amazing job, Xelna! I can't wait to see it for myself.

Could you not spam threads with quotes of other people's posts? It's not that hard to come up with your own reply.

Jan 31, 2011, 1:44pm, andrewsears wrote:Could you not spam threads with quotes of other people's posts? It's not that hard to come up with your own reply.

jk. jk.

I seriously loled at matan's reaction. If he is amazed by it then we all are.

That's gotta be incredible! I can't wait to watch it!

NIIIIICE. Half of ONE SECOND. Was this on purpose or did you just get one of those amazing lucky runs that is impossible to replicate?


Jan 25, 2011, 8:22pm, sporlo wrote:(For example, I feel like theoretically you could edge hit on the last jump on Fork in the Road to shave off a few milliseconds. It would have to be PERFECT, and such a slight hit that you don't go too far laterally. But visually it looks like when I fail and hit the edge it gives me a little boost.)

In the meantime, here is that edge hit on Fork in the Road I was talking about: localhostr.com/file/hNP6XIT/forkroadedgehit.rec (it's a fail, but it gives you the idea)
It pushes you a good deal to the side, but if you can make the hit slight enough, you might be able to hit the finish pad with good position.

Jan 31, 2011, 4:40pm, sporlo wrote:In the meantime, here is that edge hit on Fork in the Road I was talking about: localhostr.com/file/hNP6XIT/forkroadedgehit.rec (it's a fail, but it gives you the idea)
It pushes you a good deal to the side, but if you can make the hit slight enough, you might be able to hit the finish pad with good position.Oh yeah, that one. I've never been able to properly do that edge hit. On a related note there's one just like it on No Gems Escher's Race (easier to do but still hard), saves like 0.04s.

Jan 31, 2011, 4:34pm, imacmatician wrote:That's gotta be incredible! I can't wait to watch it!












Hi Andrew

Wow I'm definitely excited for the next speedrun update.

Jan 31, 2011, 6:44pm, marblefire wrote:Hi Andrew

HAI MF

I just attempted like 200 times Tri Twist this evening and I missed 22.2x twice (11/12 gems on finish). All the run is super easy except one part.

So yeah after I do Tri Twist I think I'll be done for the update unless there's a new crazy path discovered.

Edit :

Tri Twist (22.65s) - I'll try to go for lower later.

Video compilation coming up this week-end. I don't think I've ever seen something like this before. New stuff. Related to WR stuff in some way.

great news

Feb 3, 2011, 12:40pm, xelna wrote:Video compilation coming up this week-end. I don't think I've never seen something like this before. New stuff. Related to WR stuff in some way.Awesome, can't wait!

Sounds great!

Hoping for some Dragonforce.

Feb 3, 2011, 5:53pm, pablovasquez wrote:Hoping for some Dragonforce.

Nah, better than Dragonforce