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04 Mar 2011 08:00 #541
Trapdoors!

Original End Pad in MBG:
Code:new StaticShape(EndPoint) {
position = -16 3.20029e-007 32;
rotation = 0 0 -1 89.9544;
scale = 1 1 1;
dataBlock = EndPad;
Modified End Pad in MBP:
Code:new StaticShape(EndPoint) {
position = -16 0 32;
rotation = 0 0 -1 90;
scale = 1 1 1;
dataBlock = EndPad;


This is the reason MBG records should be done on MBG.
I'm not suggesting that the modifications would make any significant difference (perhaps a max of a couple milliseconds), and it won't change the fact that your personal path really is the best one and it yields the best time.
But for the same reason we require .recs for proof, a logical extension of that requirement is that the records be obtained using the original game file.

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04 Mar 2011 08:26 #542
Okay, Trapdoors in MBP was recorded on Mac 1.20, this doesn't even run on Windows as Windows is 1.14, so it cannot run to start with. Secondly, I tested out in MBG and your Trapdoors failed runs are indeed failure (one of them goes left, so 3 failed attempts) and the 2nd one stops halfway through.
Weirder, is that the filename was Trapdoors!.mis instead of trapdoor.mis which leads me to believe you were using the MBP version in MBG for some reason; might explain why it screws up like that.

Time Trial works, but I'm getting 2.20 on the clock and not 2.19. Are you sure you sent the right .rec ?

EDIT: Actually, were all those recorded on a Mac? It could explain...
Also, I tested in 800x600, 1280x720 and 1600x1000. Unless you were using a different resolution, then TT has no real reason to give 2.20.

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05 Mar 2011 02:18 #543
Weird, Time Trial still gives me a 2.19. I even checked with the original mission files for both levels (I had been using the MBP versions) and the start pad positions are the same (at least to the nearest micrometre).

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05 Mar 2011 02:28 #544
The finish pad isn't (see sporlo's posts). I thought the interior was also modified in MBP but whatever.

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05 Mar 2011 13:36 #545
You do realize the difference in the finish pad positions is about 0.0000003 metres, right?

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05 Mar 2011 15:56 #546
That could still make a very small difference, asuul.

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05 Mar 2011 19:54 #547
Mar 5, 2011, 7:56am, mbgdemon wrote:That could still make a very small difference, asuul.

Honestly I don't think it'll make a difference on this level. However, that's not the point. The point is consistency. On certain levels the positions of gems, interiors, and other helpful items like signs were moved. I'd imagine there'd be quite a few levels that would yield different times. Therefore, if you can't use MBP for some levels, you shouldn't be able to use them for any of them.

Remember, they're MBG WRs, not MBP MBG WRs...


(and this is why I objected to modifying any MBG levels at all way back when they originally did it. Everyone insisted that it was a great idea, but I made the argument that all the polish was already present in MBP, we didn't NEED to polish the MBG levels.)

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06 Mar 2011 02:19 #548
Mar 5, 2011, 11:54am, sporlo wrote:(and this is why I objected to modifying any MBG levels at all way back when they originally did it. Everyone insisted that it was a great idea, but I made the argument that all the polish was already present in MBP, we didn't NEED to polish the MBG levels.)I find it funny how people were opposed to putting Easter Eggs and Ultimate Times into MBP's MBG levels, yet as you say people supported modifying all these MBG levels.

Let's not forget the hidden Super Speed removed from the MBP version of King of the Mountain…that makes the current WR path impossible on MBP.

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06 Mar 2011 03:59 #549
Because no one expected people to somehow screenshot glitch on MBG. Also, A-Maze-Ing's finish pad was moved to not be misaligned. Supposedly it shouldn't affect anything, but we now don't believe that.

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06 Mar 2011 07:10 #550
Mar 5, 2011, 7:59pm, admin wrote:Because no one expected people to somehow screenshot glitch on MBG.

There was no such thing as a screenshot glitch until I came along.

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06 Mar 2011 07:30 #551
Mar 5, 2011, 11:10pm, xnanux1 wrote:
Mar 5, 2011, 7:59pm, admin wrote:Because no one expected people to somehow screenshot glitch on MBG.

There was no such thing as a screenshot glitch until I came along.

False. You obviously came along too late. Have you ever heard of the history of Space Slide? Andrew Patterson?

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06 Mar 2011 08:28 #552
Mar 5, 2011, 11:30pm, sporlo wrote:
Mar 5, 2011, 11:10pm, xnanux1 wrote:

There was no such thing as a screenshot glitch until I came along.

False. You obviously came along too late. Have you ever heard of the history of Space Slide? Andrew Patterson?
Oh, my bad.

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20 Mar 2011 05:47 #553
OMFG 3 second on king of the mountain dang crazy!

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20 Mar 2011 06:06 #554
Mar 19, 2011, 10:47pm, tylerporter126 wrote:OMFG 3 second on king of the mountain dang crazy!


Any proof?

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20 Mar 2011 19:45 #555
Maybe he's commenting on the current WR by Alex?

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21 Mar 2011 01:23 #556
Probably. I want to see a video of Alex's time, or at least of that path...

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21 Mar 2011 22:14 #557
There's a .rec and i didn't have 3s but 3.61 and i used the path of this video:

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22 Mar 2011 02:11 #558
By the way, when is the update scheduled to be released?

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22 Mar 2011 03:41 #559
ONCE I DO TIGHTROPE

Which should be maybe soon, I got some homework to do first... uni keeps me being busy and then Angry Birds sucks it all out and then I end up doing everything except Marble Blast. But once that's done I'll do the update.

Note to self: do it this week once you finish the homework.

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22 Mar 2011 09:37 #560
How the heck i was stunned.

@matan: Are you still triing to finish angry birds PC version?

Some guy that does DTS shapes and levels.

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29 Mar 2011 04:21 #561
How is this possible 3.62 on King of the Mountain By AlexPMG1

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29 Mar 2011 07:12 #562
@tylerporter126 look my video


and wait, i thougt alex have 3.61 and not 3.62??

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29 Mar 2011 19:25 #563
Jan 15, 2011, 10:18am, alexthepromacgamer wrote:King of the Mountain (3.614) [.rec]

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03 Apr 2011 18:23 #564
Tango - 3.01 (Pascal,mosquashi) ahhhh, I WANT BEAT HIM!!!

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05 Aug 2011 09:57 #565
Final call to all!

If you hold a World Record in MBG, please send to me via e-mail (or a personal message on YouTube) your .rec file for it. The update is bigger than first anticipated and we got a couple more levels done...

Regardless, you'll be surprised which.

If your .rec is in MBP, I cannot accept it. MBP is known to have levels modified and some other inconsistencies that make WRs or .recs in it be automatically disqualified. We need the authentic stuff, so please record in MBG.

Reminder: $dorecorddemo=1;

Don't say oh, I have already sent it to him, meh, no need because I could end up overwriting your run or not having it at all. Right now I'm already confused about some of the runs I do have.

I'll be posting in a few weeks a list of all the runs I'm missing and requesting those runs. I'll make a list for myself with all the times and then I check the .recs to see if they match.

Please remember to write your time to the THIRD decimal place. If you don't know it or don't have it, it's assumed to be 9 automatically.

If your .rec desyncs (I need it to run on 1280x720), I'll notify you.

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05 Aug 2011 22:07 #566
Why is the third decimal assumed to be 9?

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05 Aug 2011 22:24 #567
If you don't have your prefs.cs then you can't tell us the 3rd decimal place, which is needed. So we default it to 9 since it gives us the highest penalty.

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07 Aug 2011 21:31 #568
Aug 5, 2011, 2:57am, admin wrote:If you hold a World Record in MBG, please send to me via e-mail (or a personal message on YouTube) your .rec file for it.

Do you not check your MBF PMs anymore?

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08 Aug 2011 06:27 #569
Aug 5, 2011, 2:57am, admin wrote:Final call to all!Do you want bloopers too by any chance?

And I just sent you all my current MBG WRs.

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08 Aug 2011 11:10 #570
Sporlo, I do, but the problem is most links are old. I want everyone to resend so I make sure I have latest version and not some overwritten stuff.

iMac: all bloopers are accepted.

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